This week on forward.

There are a lot of people now we're just saying wait till 28.

And meanwhile the rest of us are like, so,

you're okay with writing off four years under Trump even though you tell us he's going to be a fascist dictator and that was one of the reasons why I admired Dean so much is that there were a bunch of luminaries in the Democratic Party who have said like I'm

going to wait till 28 because Joe's going to win or lose and then it'll be my turn.

It's like okay the country kind of needs you now. No. No. Welcome to an emergency podcast episode to talk about that debate with me and

Zach holy crap man we were texting throughout and it was incredibly rough.

I had two emotions after that debate.

One is, there were parts of it, they were fundamentally hilarious.

There were really, really funny moments.

The golf moment, as a golfer, a bad golfer myself, like two dudes fighting over their handicap was hilarious.

There was a moment where Trump said to him, like Biden just mumbles something and Trump said,

I had no idea what this man said and he doesn't know he doesn't know either yeah objectively hilarious and but it was also a really in my, really sad day for the country.

That was the other motion in Hadberg.

Oh, it was super sad.

I've been sad ever since, more or less.

I was

I figured his team had gotten a pretty good read on how to energize him for 90 minutes. I will say and I wrote this up in the newsletter that giving

a speech off a teleprompter is a whole lot easier than having to do a 90 minute debate.

And I made the point, if you told me I needed

to give a good speech off a teleprompter this afternoon I could do it no problem if you told

me hey you need to go do a televised 90 minute debate this afternoon I'd be like

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