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ποΈ 8 July 2024
β±οΈ 50 minutes
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0:00.0 | This week on Forward. |
0:03.0 | All of our work is sort of the theory of change is experiential, |
0:07.0 | so the documentary is about experiencing people getting basic income. |
0:10.0 | The platform is about experiencing how it actually works. |
0:13.2 | It's very, very hard to teach financial planning to someone who has no money. |
0:16.2 | It's similar with UBI. |
0:17.8 | It's like, well, you know, here's how it works and as soon as someone actually experiences |
0:21.9 | it, to your point, Conrad Conrad then it's a very different |
0:24.4 | they immediately confuse it with welfare and like or it'll be go it'll be an excuse for the |
0:29.0 | government to control you and tell you what to do it's like now you're talking about conditional welfare like that's not |
0:34.4 | you B.I. It is my pleasure to welcome to the podcast some old friends the UBI Jedi himself, Scott Santins, uh, and the UBI Guy, the co-creator of the |
0:59.4 | Bootstrap's documentary and co-mingle, Conrad Shaw, welcome Conrad and Scott Santins. |
1:06.0 | Conrad Shaw, Scott Santins, my guys for all things UBI. |
1:11.0 | So it's a pleasure to be with you both. There are some exciting |
1:16.8 | updates, but first give people a little bit of your personal backstories in terms of how you came to believe so strongly in UBI. |
1:26.9 | And I feel like everyone knows you, Scott. |
1:28.4 | So Conrad, lead us off. |
1:31.9 | It was 2016 and I was in New York doing, I had left engineering to be, to pursue acting, screen |
1:38.8 | writing, stuff like that. So I was waiting tables and stuff. |
1:43.6 | And I had met my now wife, Day. |
1:45.6 | I was a documentarian. |
1:47.8 | And she had asked me if I wanted to produce |
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