I'm Jonathan Kapart and welcome to Kapart.

Exhibiting forgiveness is the beautiful directorial debut of Titus Kafar.

It's a powerful autobiographical look at Kafar's life.

Playing him in this riveting movie is Andre Holland.

Holland plays Terrell, a successful painter and family man.

He and his wife Aisha, played by Andra Day, lead a wonderfully prosperous life with their

son Germain.

The behind the beautiful paintings is a lot of pain.

In this conversation first recorded for Washington Post live on October 23rd,

Andre Holland talks about getting ready for the role by learning to paint

with Titus Kefar, how his real life informed his acting in the movie,

why he's going to Harvard Divinity School,

and the role of forgiveness in exhibiting forgiveness.

Forgiveness is a very bespoke experience, right?

I think it's just offering us a more nuanced look at what forgiveness might actually entail.

So I should tell you that watching the film was like a Washington Post live reunion.

You are now the third person.

Andreday has been here and Angenu Ellis Taylor has been here.

So finally you are here.

Thank you for being here.

Say the best for last, right?

Right.

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