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Anti-Populism with Thomas Frank

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2020

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Guest host Astra Taylor interviews Thomas Frank about his book The People, No: A Brief History of Anti-Populism. From The Dig archives on populism: Universalizing American Liberty with Aziz Rana Populism’s Power with Laura Grattan and Thea Riofrancos Worker Freedom with Alex Gourevitch Join a Dig Book Club at thedigradio.com/dig-book-club Support this podcast at Patreon.com/TheDig

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This episode of the dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com and by Verso Books which has loads of great left-wing titles

0:10.0

perfect for dig listeners like you.

0:13.0

One that you might like is Automation in the Future of Work by Aaron Beninov.

0:18.0

Silicon Valley Titans, politicians, techno-futurists, and social critics have united in arguing that we are living on the

0:25.2

cusp of an era of rapid technological automation, heralding the end of work as we know it.

0:32.2

But does the much-discussed rise of the robots really explain

0:35.8

the jobs crisis that awaits us on the other side of the coronavirus? In automation and the future

0:40.9

of work, Aaron Beninov

0:42.9

uncovers the structural economic trends

0:45.1

that will shape our working lives far into the future.

0:48.7

What social movements, he asks,

0:51.0

are required to propel us into post-scarcity if technological innovation alone cannot deliver it.

0:57.6

In response to calls for a universal basic income that would maintain a growing army of

1:02.0

redundant workers, he offers a counter-proposal.

1:06.0

Mike Davis called the book, quote, a powerful and persuasive explanation of why capitalism can't

1:11.8

create jobs or generate income for a majority of humanity.

1:16.0

I also interviewed Aaron earlier this year on this very subject.

1:20.0

Check it out if you have not already.

1:22.0

Automation in the Future of work by Aaron Beninov out now from Verso Books Welcome to the dig, a podcast from Jacobin magazine. My name is Daniel Denver and

1:42.0

I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

1:46.6

How did populism get such a bad name? A single word that succinctly conveys everything that is racist, anti-intellectual,

1:55.9

conspiratorial, and provincial about mass working-class politics.

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