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So, Lisa, Apple is on target to become carbon neutral across its entire business and manufacturing

supply chain by 2030. Can you explain exactly what that means? Sure. So today, Apple is carbon

neutral for all of our own operations. And we're running on 100% renewable energy for our corporate campuses, for our stores,

and for our data centers.

So we know how to do this work.

The challenge for 2030 is to convert our supply chain.

And that work has already begun.

We already have 70 suppliers over 8 gigawatts of

energy coming online in our supply chain. And then our last piece will be to convert the energy

that our customers use to charge our devices to clean energy. What are some of the biggest

changes that Apple is going to need to make

in its business operations in order to be able to achieve those goals? So imagine if instead of

mining material to go into Apple products, we actually started with recycled material. So we're not

going all the way back to the mine through smelting, transportation,

processing. Instead, we're really talking about reprocessing to some degree and putting that

material right back into products. Super important with things like conflict metals or rare

earths. So Apple has been doing that work now for several years. We've

actually promised that we want to make all of our products out of recycled and renewable

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