Apple vs. Facebook

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4 • 102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Recently, Apple released a seemingly innocuous software update: a new privacy feature that would explicitly ask iPhone users whether an app should be allowed to track them across other apps and sites. For Facebook, however, this feature is anything but innocuous — it strikes at the heart of the company’s business model. The dispute represents a further deterioration in the frosty relations between the two companies. What’s at the heart of this conflict, and why have the stakes become so high for both sides? Guest: Mike Isaac, a technology correspondent for The New York Times.

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0:00.0	From New York Times, I'm Michael Bavaro. This is a Daily.
0:10.5	Today, the story of how a seemingly routine software update
0:16.5	became a major battle in the long-running war between Apple and Facebook.
0:22.5	A stead-herndon spoke with our colleague, Mike Isaac, about what's at the heart of the conflict
0:29.5	and why the stakes have become so high for both companies.
0:43.5	It's Tuesday, May 11th.
0:46.5	So, Mike, can you tell me about this thing that Apple premiered the other day?
0:56.5	It seemed pretty small, but from when I'm gathering, it's not that small.
0:59.5	Yeah, so the other day, Apple rolls out this ad that seems pretty innocuous, I guess, at first glance.
1:08.5	When you're using apps on your iPhone, you may start to see this.
1:12.5	It's the new app tracking transparency problem.
1:15.5	It's nice sounding woman's voice, sort of telling folks, hey, we're going to introduce this new software.
1:22.5	And you might start noticing this prompt on the iPhone when you open certain apps.
1:27.5	A choice on how apps use and share your data.
1:30.5	It'll say you can allow apps to track you or you can ask them not to track you.
1:35.5	Data like your age, location, health information, spending habits, and your browsing history to name a few.
1:41.5	They basically walk folks through this idea that.
1:44.5	They collect thousands of pieces of information about you.
1:47.5	To create a digital profile that they sell to others.
1:51.5	Some apps on the iPhone are building entire profiles of information on you
1:56.5	and tracking your behavior across different apps rather than when you're using the apps themselves.
2:02.5	This has been happening without your knowledge or permission.
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