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All There Is with Anderson Cooper

Ashley Judd: Grief, Love and Naomi

All There Is with Anderson Cooper

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Society & Culture

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

When Naomi Judd died by suicide in 2022, after a long struggle with mental illness, her daughter Ashley found her. In this deeply moving, revealing, and insightful conversation Ashley Judd talks about the trauma she has worked hard to face, the grief she now feels, and how her mother’s spirit is still very much alive in her life.

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0:00.0

The Past is never dead, it's not even past.

0:07.0

William Faulkner wrote that in his novel Requiem for a nun, and my mom liked to quote it a lot. I found an addendum of sorts to it online

0:15.3

recently, a quote by a writer named Greg Isles from his book The Quiet Game. I want to

0:20.8

read it to you because I think it speaks to grief in a powerful way.

0:26.0

Iles wrote, Faulkner said the past is never dead, it's not even passed.

0:31.6

All of us labor and web spun long before we were born, webs of

0:36.0

heredity and environment, of desire and consequence of history and

0:40.5

eternity. Haunted by wrong turns and roads not taken, we pursue images perceived as new, but whose providence

0:48.2

dates to the dim dramas of childhood, which are themselves but ripples of consequence echoing down the generations.

0:56.2

The quotidian demands of life distract from this resonance of images and events, but some of us feel

1:01.9

it always.

1:05.0

The past has felt especially present to me these last few weeks.

1:09.1

Perhaps it's because of the holidays I've so long avoided or the anniversary of my dad's death last Friday, but the

1:15.6

dim dramas of my childhood have been playing out very brightly in my mind.

1:21.0

The grief I've so long buried is increasingly, insistently trying to make itself known to me.

1:27.0

I just don't know if I'm ready to welcome it.

1:30.0

I'm not sure what's more embarrassing my desire to weep or my continued

1:35.8

difficulty in doing so. This is all there is with me, Anderson Cooper.

1:44.3

My guest on the podcast is Ashley Judd, but before we start, I want to mention that we're going

1:49.0

to be discussing the death of Ashley's mom, singer Naomi Judd, who died by suicide. If you or someone you love is struggling,

1:56.1

help is available. In the US, you can call or tax the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline

2:01.4

at 988.

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