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All There Is with Anderson Cooper

Nicole Chung: Carrying Memories Alone

All There Is with Anderson Cooper

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Society & Culture

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

When best-selling author Nicole Chung’s adoptive parents died, she felt all alone. Her family had unraveled, and there was no one else who remembered what she was like as a little girl. Nicole speaks with Anderson about carrying her parents’ memories alone and the search for her birth parents, which led to a series of surprising discoveries. You can call and leave a message at: (917) 727-6818. We'd especially like to hear if there's something that you've learned in your grief that might help others.

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0:00.0

Apple, Apple, my son Sebastian has started to talk.

0:05.0

Banana was his first word, and just the other day he started saying apple.

0:12.0

I'm so proud of you.

0:13.0

Apple.

0:14.0

What's your second word?

0:16.0

I feel like he's going to be speaking sentences in no time and it's incredible to witness the progress that he makes every day. I wish I could say the same for myself.

0:26.0

The last couple of weeks I've been feeling stuck,

0:30.0

like I haven't made enough progress dealing with the grief that I've been running from for so long.

0:36.2

When I started the season of the podcast, I'd had this revelation that I'd never grieved, that I'd buried

0:41.3

the sadness and fear I felt as a little boy when my dad died and

0:44.8

then again when my brother killed himself. I realized that sad and angry little boy

0:50.6

is still very much alive inside me. When I interviewed Francis Weller in the first

0:56.6

episode of the season's podcast I asked him what I should try to do to begin to face all that buried grief.

1:04.6

What is the next step?

1:05.6

I feel like a well, an ocean of tears just below the surface.

1:10.9

For the last two months I've just felt it constantly there and it bubbles up all the time now.

1:17.0

Yeah.

1:18.0

You have to make a slow titration into that territory. I don't think we dive head first into it. We have to build some of faith

1:26.8

that the grief itself won't swallow me. So you can do little writing practices.

1:32.4

To begin to know that I can touch into that space and step back out

1:36.4

Touch into it step back out begin to see that when you're there and when you return I'm not going to drown. This grief belongs here.

1:45.8

It'll actually help me to become more human.

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