Good afternoon everybody, welcome to, sorry, at the table Tom and Eric are show about

the people who play games. I'm Tom Vessel and I'm Eric Summerer. Our guest at the table today

is the designer of abandoned all artichokes and then we died squabble in goblins and the upcoming

starry night sky and a lot more. She's also the former host of ludology. Please welcome

Emma Larkins. Hello Emma. Thanks for having me. We are glad to have you folks who are watching. I

don't want to complain but I want to point out that Sunday was the third coldest Christmas ever

in Miami 46 degrees. It was miserable for everyone involved. I would have killed for 46 degrees.

Same, same. It was also 46 degrees this morning but it has since gone to it's almost 70 now so

life is back to normal. Oh my goodness. Yes, yes, yes. So it's been a lovely, we're in the middle of

the holiday season. Did you have a good Christmas holiday, Tom and Emma? It was fun.

Chill. Yeah, you were saying you're very busy. I just purposefully because I usually just, I don't

know how time works. I'm like yeah, I can do that. I can do that. I can bake some cookies. I can

do this but I plan to do nothing and so I ended up doing a reasonable amount of things.

Okay. From zero to reasonable. I like it. That's a good plan. How about you, Tom? Yeah, there's

nothing reasonable about what's going on but you know what? I brought much of this upon myself so I

cannot complain too much but Christmas day I was fine. I watched Matilda, Eric finally. It's an

excellent. I saw it in the theater. It's a really good production of the musical. This is now on

Netflix. This is the movie version of the Broadway show. Eric is a big Broadway guy. He goes and

watches Matilda and sings along in his seat. I know this. He has admitted it. It's entirely possible.

I was at least tapping my toes. Eric, you know what? I think there's only three good songs in

that thing though. I think I think most of the songs are okay. Okay. Them's fighting words.

We're going to get to that later maybe off-like but first we should we should talk to Emma. Yeah,

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