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Death, Sex & Money

Baby Reindeer’s Intimacy Coordinator on Sex and Trauma on Screen

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Since the #MeToo movement, the presence of intimacy coordinators have become more common on movie and TV sets. In this episode, Elle McAlpine the intimacy coordinator for many projects including Poor Things and Baby Reindeer, talks about what her job entails, from choreographing the perfect orgasm to navigating tricky workplace dynamics. Podcast production by Zoe Azulay Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

We all know the story by now. In the wake of the Me Too movement, Hollywood scrambled to clean up their act in lots of ways.

0:08.0

There were firings, press releases, promises to do better.

0:12.0

And a new approach to filming sex scenes using intimacy

0:16.4

coordinators. Since sex scenes became a thing in modern cinema all the way

0:21.5

back in the 1930s, really. Each director in production had approached

0:26.1

sex scenes in their own way, some with closed sets, others with crew walking in and out

0:31.7

throughout, some with careful choreography. others with crew walking in and out throughout.

0:36.9

Some with careful choreography, others totally improvised.

0:40.8

Without clear systems, things could go really badly.

0:45.6

Like an actor ends up being surprised, which famously happened in the unscripted assault scene in Lestango in Paris, or an actor feels pressured to go

0:51.3

further with nudity in the moment.

0:53.7

Intimacy coordinators promised to bring guidelines on set so that actors knew what to expect

0:59.6

and could get more support and say in the process. But until this conversation I didn't really have a sense of how

1:06.1

that job fit in creatively on a movie set. I pictured someone with a clipboard like an HR rep there to monitor things and

1:14.0

protect the studio from liability. I did not expect L. McAlpine who in the course of

1:20.7

our conversation very charmingly described all the different ways women's bodies can move during orgasms

1:27.5

and she made these different heaving exhale sounds to make her point.

1:32.2

I first heard about L because she did the intimacy coordination for poor things.

1:37.0

The Emma Stone movie directed by Yorgos Lanthemos.

1:40.0

There is lots of sex in that movie.

1:43.0

Sexy sex, funny sex, upsetting sex.

1:47.0

Elle also worked on one of my favorite recent shows,

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