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Death, Sex & Money

Sex Parties and Shakespeare With Carvell Wallace

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Carvell Wallace’s brilliant new memoir Another Word for Love has been rightfully praised for its passages about childhood trauma, about apologies and forgiveness, and about the healing power of love. But the book also features some important lessons about sex, consent, and the ways popular culture can send the wrong messages about both of those things. This week on the show, Carvell digs into those lessons and the experiences that changed him forever, including his first encounters with Shakespeare and his trip to an unforgettable sex party. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

How do you feel about dogs?

0:05.0

Since COVID I've done most interviews for this show remotely,

0:12.0

connecting via laptops. But for this week's

0:14.4

episode when my guest was writer Carvel Wallace we decided to just do it at my

0:19.0

house with my dogs and some snacks.

0:21.3

Cool this is such a great spread.

0:24.0

Oh, that's such cute.

0:25.0

Yeah.

0:26.0

Would you like some tea or coffee?

0:28.0

Um...

0:29.0

Carvel Wallace is someone I first got to know as a writer and from his podcast voice.

0:35.4

His reported pieces in the New York Times magazine became appointment reading for me,

0:40.6

for his insights and also his beautiful writing. I also listened to podcasts he made.

0:46.2

There's one called Closer than they appear. There was a series about Mr.

0:50.4

Rogers called Finding Fred, a podcast episode about Long Distance

0:54.2

Distance Love from the show The 11th that was among the most intimate

0:58.1

portraits of relationships I've ever heard.

1:01.6

And over the years he and I have gotten to know each other a little. He lives in Oakland,

1:05.2

and I live in Berkeley. We've had a few coffees, sometimes text. And when I joined Slate,

1:10.0

we became co-workers. He's one of the co-host of the slate podcast

1:13.9

How-2 and is also written for slate's parenting column,

1:16.9

Karen Feeding.

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