Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller in this episode, balancing looking good with feeling good and giving

yourself grace. We're with fitness celebrity Shalene Johnson. So I don't normally gravitate

towards people with huge followings and big brand personalities. Yet I do like a good down-to-earth story of personal evolution.

And this is one I'm bringing back for you. So some years ago, I got to have a long conversation

with Shalene Johnson and about an entire afternoon. We recorded a couple shows. We talked for

hours longer about our sort of fitness and

athletic journeys. Well, Shaline literally holds a Guinness world record for having starred in the

most fitness videos ever. It's somewhat of an odd title to me and one sheet questions as well,

but it's part of her story. She's this billboard for being fit,

trim, sexy, all that good stuff. And yet along the way to achieving this, she hurt herself

physically and mentally. She was selling this image and just somewhat killing herself to maintain it.

So today, she's still leading women to looking good and feeling good as well.

And one of the reasons so many people connect to her is her openness about her own journey and the

realities of all this stuff. And she realizes she's been wrong sometimes and she'll admit that

and she'll try something new. And if doesn't work she shares that too so we talked

through her story some and we lead up to her having a big health decline some years ago that

included debilitating brain fog mood swings and chronic pain and injuries again all the while

while she's recording fitness videos and selling stuff well and that's what got her started questioning the diet and fitness industry.

She's helping actually promote.

She taught herself how to read scientific studies and wisely evaluate the research and just

look at this stuff pretty soberly.

That's what you're going to hear about in this conversation coming up

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