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Politics Unpacked

Becoming leader when nobody cares

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

As Labour picks its leader, Matt Chorley talks to William Hague about taking charge when "people are utterly uninterested in what you think and do". He covers PMQs, reshuffles, speeches and gives advice to Sir Keir Starmer.

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0:00.0

This is a passenger announcement. You can now book your train on Uber and get 10% back in credits to spend on Uber eats.

0:11.0

So you can order your own fries instead of eating everyone else's.

0:15.0

Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app.

0:20.0

Imagine sweeping through green fields, floating five feet above ground, sun on your face as you slide by, on track to your

0:35.0

there.

0:40.0

the care in the world as you simply lean back.

0:37.0

And before you know it, you're there.

0:40.0

This is how travels should feel,

0:42.0

and on our trains it does.

0:45.0

Avanti West Coast feel good travel.

0:49.0

What do you do when you reach the pinnacle of your political career, becoming leader of your party, and nobody cares?

1:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Red Box Politics Podcast on The Times, I'm Matt Chorley.

1:07.6

The Labour Party finally replaces Jeremy Corbyn this week with Sir Kierstarma likely to be picked

1:12.3

as his replacement.

1:14.0

But with all the attention, rightly on coronavirus and the government soaring in the polls for

1:18.5

its handling of the crisis, what can the leader of Hermath's opposition do to get noticed?

1:24.4

Who better to ask than a man who at the age of just 36 became leader of his party

1:30.1

after suffering the worst election result for a century hoping to turn things around.

1:35.0

I'm delighted to be joined by William Haig, Conservative Party leader from 1997 to 2001,

1:40.0

and later of course foreign secretary and now Lord Haig of Richmond.

1:45.0

We'll discuss his PMQ's greatest hits, the speeches that nobody noticed, that baseball cap,

1:51.0

and back by popular demand we launch next week our World Cup of

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