Hello everybody and welcome back to Revolutionary Left Radio.

On today's episode we have AM Gitlets, aka Andy from the Antifa de Podcast and Protocol.

On to talk about his new book I Want to Believe.

It's a fascinating sort of wild ride through history centered on a sub-sector of Trotsky

as a known as Pasadism.

Many of us are probably at least peripherally aware of Pasadism through a big wave of memes

that were really popular in like 2016-2017 era and a lot of us don't know much about that

movement other than through sort of semi-ironic or fully-ironic memes.

And so this is an episode that we've been sort of hounded by listeners for a long time

to have, especially in the early days when we were really focused on starting Rev Left

through deep dive through multiple left-wing tendencies.

People were constantly saying he should be one on Pasadism.

Never quite got to it.

I never, at that time, especially even really knew what it was outside of just an interaction

with the memes.

Once I heard Andy was writing a book on it, I had to dive deeper into it and this is what

this discussion is about.

So lots of interesting stuff we talk about Dolphins, Newks and UFOs, but we also talk about

Trotskyism, the Cuban Revolution, the historical struggles, the fourth international, and lots

of other fascinating stuff we talk about Carl Sagan and his wife's sort of flirtation

with Marxism and Socialism, which is also a fascinating aspect of this.

And at the very end, if you wait until the very end after the outro music of this episode

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