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The Ezra Klein Show

Best Of: Want to Save Democracy? Run For Office.

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.611K Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

This week, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from the year. For those who make New Year’s resolutions, today’s conversation might plant the seed for a bold one: Running for office. Amanda Litman is a co-founder of Run for Something, which recruits and supports young, progressive candidates who want to run for office. We spoke in February 2022, but our conversation remains relevant as ever. It’s about the mechanics of American democracy, the confusions and myths that keep so many of us from participating in them and the practical question of what it means to step off the sidelines and, well, run for something. We also talk about why Democrats tend to chase “shiny objects” over real political power, what right-leaning organizations have been up to that liberals should envy, how you probably have more control over issues like abortion and climate change than you think, what it actually takes to run a local campaign, the three questions prospective candidates should be able to answer, and more. This is the rare conversation about democracy that left me feeling better, rather than worse, about what’s possible. I think it’ll do the same for you. This episode contains strong language. Mentioned: “Heeding Steve Bannon’s Call, Election Deniers Organize to Seize Control of the GOP — and Reshape America’s Elections” by Isaac Arnsdorf, Doug Bock Clark, Alexandra Berzon and Anjeanette Damon What It Takes by Richard Ben Cramer Find out what elected offices you can run for Book recommendations: The Heart Principle by Helen Hoang Olga Dies Dreaming by Xochitl Gonzalez Let’s Get Physical by Danielle Friedman Thoughts? Email us at [email protected]. Guest suggestions? Fill out this form. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Ezra. We are off now through the end of 2022, but I want to repost this episode with

0:05.8

Amanda Litman, co-founder of Run for Something. And I want to repost it because I think a good

0:11.1

resolution for a lot of people might be to literally run for something. We just saw an election

0:16.4

happen. I think people have a sense over the past couple of years of how important it is to actually

0:22.3

be in office, including a lot of local offices, if democracy is going to work. If the promise of

0:28.3

this political system we've been entrusted with is going to be realized. And this was a wonderful

0:33.3

and very tactical, like very tangible conversation about what it means to run for office. I both

0:39.2

love it as a look into the mechanics of running for office, but I hope and I've already heard from

0:43.1

people for whom it actually is a push to doing something that is much more achievable and much

0:48.9

more near than people give it credit for, which is running for something local and being part of the

0:56.1

machinery of democracy yourself. I hope you enjoy it.

1:04.0

I'm Ezra Klein and this is the Ezra Klein Show.

1:17.6

Since Joe Biden won the presidency and Democrats took the Senate, their big plan on democracy has

1:23.5

been national. They're going to pass these big democracy bills through the House, which they did,

1:28.4

through the Senate, get them to Joe Biden. And then democracy would be saved. The franchise would be

1:35.0

expanded. All these other good things would happen. And that strategy has failed. It failed a few

1:42.0

weeks ago in the Senate and it failed for a very specific reason. It failed because Joe Manchin and

1:46.4

Kristen Sinema joined the Senate Republicans to say the filibuster does in fact apply to bills,

1:52.0

meant to protect the right to vote itself, bills that are about who gets to vote.

1:57.2

And so that is that right now for the federal path to protecting and expanding democracy.

2:02.4

And I could I could rage to you about it for hours here. If you followed me for a while, you

2:07.9

you know how I feel about the filibuster. And you know that the filibuster has had a particularly

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