Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's Twice Weekly podcast on leadership with Scott Miller.

That's me. I'm your host for nearly seven years, gosh, close to 500 episodes where every Tuesday and Friday,

I am privileged to sit in this chair for this podcast, sponsored by the Franklin Covey Company

to interview and spotlight people that are making a difference, people that show up in all

different form and fashion. Sometimes they are academics, researchers, scientists. Often they are

C-suite leaders, people responsible for sales, culture, strategy, execution, retention,

engagement in their organization. Sometimes they are entrepreneurs or entrepreneurs.

Sometimes they are people that have suffered from some setback, trauma or tragedy, and not just lived to tell about it, but some of the courage to teach through it.

All designed to make you a better leader, a leader both formally or informally in your family and your careers, or in the words of our co-founder, Stephen Covey, just to become more highly effective.

Today I'm elated to have one of the world's most prominent authorities on workplace belonging.

Her name is Dr. Beth Kaplan, and she's just released a new book, love this cover, titled

Braving the Workplace, Belonging at the Breaking Point.

Dr. Beth Kaplan, welcome to On Leadership.

Thanks so much for having me, Scott.

What an honor.

You are known through the world as being arguably the leading the leading practitioner thought leader expert

scientist on workplace bravery on the topic of belonging which I think a lot of

people will immediately associate with some kind of diversity equity and

inclusion solution we'll talk about how that's different and necessarily not connected.

I think everyone wants to belong from the earliest ages in life. In fact, you opened the book

with a great story about your own yearning for belonging. We'll go there in just a moment. First,

Beth, we're delighted that you're here. Everyone is going to tune in because who does not want to

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