I'm Francis Dernley, and this is Ukraine, the latest.

Today we discuss what many are calling a turning point in the war and in Western foreign policy.

As the Trump administration declares definitively, the US will no longer be a primary guarantor of Europe's security

and seeks a deal with Moscow over the heads of

Kiev and its allies. We hear the latest reaction from Brussels and Ukraine and consider the

options for those Western nations that remain committed to Ukrainian independence.

bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory.

It's the worst carnage that this world has seen since World War II.

Absolutely fascinating.

We are with you, not just today or tomorrow, but for a hundred years.

We can not as a European,

let us gain the Russia in Ukraine.

Nobody's going to break us.

We're strong.

Where Ukraine is.

It's Thursday, the 13th of February.

Two years and 349 days since the full-scale invasion began.

And today I'm joined by our Associate Editor of Defence, Dominic Nichols,

our Brussels correspondent Joe Barnes, dialing in from the NATO summit,

and staff writer at The Spectator, Ukrainian journalist Svitlana Morinette.

Normally, we start with the military updates,

but today, given the gravity of recent developments,

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