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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

BHA Podcast & Blast, Ep. 177: Salmon Source to Sea Expedition with Libby Tobey and Hailey Thompson

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6853 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2024

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

In April of 2022, Libby Tobey, Hailey Thompson and Brooke Hess skied into Marsh Creek in Idaho’s Sawtooth Range, towing their kayaks and a sled full of camping gear. The goal: trace the route of anadromous fish from the source of the Salmon River to the Pacific Ocean and advocate removing the four dams on the Lower Snake River that block that migration and are killing that river system.

78 days and 1000 miles away down the tiniest tributaries to the massive whitewater of the main rivers, through soul-killing paddling slogs in dead impoundments, portages amid highways and traffic, wind and sun, joy and tribulation, they found themselves on a spit of sand and mud at the mouth of the Columbia, drinking champagne amid wind-driven waves of salt water. Hal caught up with Libby Tobey in Idaho and with Hailey Thompson in Alaska for an account of the adventure, and a discussion of what is at stake in the debate over the fate of the lower Snake River dams.

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Yeah, what could a conservation project that's mostly kayaking look like?

0:07.0

Yeah, and it feels felt like a very fitting place for a project like this one would be born.

0:12.0

You know, that same sort of like full body sensory

0:16.8

experience that we described watching the avalanche flow out on the south fork like

0:22.3

multiply that tenfold and that was the feeling of standing above slide.

0:28.0

You can look at kind of historical graphs of anatomous fish returns through the dams. of drop and so it is a pretty glaring impact.

0:44.0

Like you can hear how much gratitude we all had in that moment making it to that point together.

0:51.0

And the crazy thing was we were like barely halfway through.

0:55.0

You would just not accept that trade if somebody weighed that out and offered it to you

1:01.0

right from that free-flowing river, those salmon runs, that landscape, that

1:06.0

ecosystem, and somebody said, well, here's the trait you're going to make with me.

1:10.7

And you would just say, no, it you know be like trading of Rolls Royce for a

1:15.1

skateboard with broken wheels. Hey everybody, Hal hearing backcountry

1:21.9

hunters and English podcast and blast. Hey, I'm fired up this

1:26.3

morning to announce that Savage Arms is going to be sponsoring this podcast and

1:31.9

on it has a special significance to me because I'm sitting

1:35.6

here holding the Savage Arms Stevens model nine theories M 20 gauge single barrel shotgun that I got for my ninth birthday. I have

1:48.8

had that since 1973. It is polished off. It's silvered up. It's scratched and I passed it on to my son when he was in, I think. That would have been in 2010 and all I've done in all those years is to change the, replace the

2:07.6

ejector.

2:10.2

That shotgun has shot thousands upon thousands of rounds.

2:15.5

So, this whole thing is very important to me.

2:26.9

When people have come to me who are new hunters and they're asking me about a deer or elk rifle, I always say first I say the Savage 110 and that so Savage has been in

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