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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

BHA Podcast & Blast, Ep. #193: NO to Alaska's Ambler Road

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6853 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2024

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Alaska’s proposed Ambler Road is back on the table, and Americans are once again asked a fundamental question about what we value and what kind of world we will pass on to our children.  We covered the Ambler Road controversy in Episode 168 of the podcast, and a quick re-listen to that episode will be handy for getting the information we need to make informed decisions in this coming time of decision and consequence. Here’s a quick breakdown of the issue: The proposed Ambler Road is a proposed 211-mile industrial corridor through public lands along the southern flanks of the Brooks Range and one of the last and largest protected roadless areas on earth. The road would be built from the Dalton Highway at Mile Marker 161 to the Ambler Mining District on the Ambler River, passing through the Gates of the Arctic National Park and Preserve, bisecting the migration route of the embattled Western Arctic caribou herd and crossing nearly 3,000 streams and 11 major rivers including the Kobuk and Koyukon.

Our guest today is Seth Kantner, who was born in a sod igloo on the Kobuk River in the 1960’s and has been hunting, trapping, fishing and making a life on the land there ever since. He’s a renowned wildlife photographer and a commercial fisherman, best known for his extraordinary novel Ordinary Wolves, his non-fiction books Shopping for Porcupine, Swallowed by the Great Land and A Thousand Trails Home: Living with Caribou, and a children’s book, Pup and Porcupine. We thought that, with all the controversy over the Ambler Road, we should find a person who could speak to what was there in that country now, and what is truly at stake if the road project goes forward. We’ll have Seth back to talk about subsistence hunting and trapping and life in the Arctic, but for now, let’s address this pressing issue of the Ambler Road.

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Hell Hearing. Obviously, this is back, Gudger-Heners and Anglers podcast and Blast.

0:07.9

Thanks for being here. This is an introduction to today's podcast episode. My guest is Seth Cantner,

0:16.1

who I've kind of been a super fan of Seth's work since I read ordinary wolves,

0:23.5

um, 15 years ago or better.

0:27.5

Um, ordinary wolves have been described as the greatest Alaska novel ever written.

0:33.7

Um, Seth was born, well, let's, let's go back here first. So since then, he's written several more books.

0:41.9

After Ordinary Wolves, Shopping for Porcupine, another one of my all-time favorites.

0:46.8

A Thousand Trails Home is his most recent book, Living with Caribou. He has a children's book called Pupp and Poki, 2014.

0:56.8

He has another book of essays, or he calls dispatches called Swallowed by the Great Land.

1:03.2

Seth was born in a sod igloo that his parents built on the banks of the Cobbock River in the 1960s and had lived a

1:15.2

commercial fisherman, hunter, trapper, subsistence person.

1:23.1

He's become one of the great wildlife photographers of our time, certainly one of the great writers, but he remains there.

1:34.8

To me, he's kind of the, let's put it this way.

1:40.2

Today's topic is the Ambler Road.

1:44.0

It's a 211-mile proposed road off the Dalton Highway that goes to the Cobbuck River and beyond.

1:51.6

And we'll talk a little bit about what that is.

1:54.1

But what I wanted, this is the industrialization of one of the greatest last protected areas on our planet,

2:04.5

and the industrialization also of the flanks of the Brooks Range.

2:10.7

So I was looking for an inhabitant, a person to speak to this issue, which we covered in podcast, episode 168,

2:21.7

if you go back and you can get some of the details here.

2:28.5

The R.

2:28.9

The Ambler Road project is to open up mining on public lands, mostly public lands, Alaska State

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