There's no more time to play around, there's no more time to just be a turtle under your shell playing defense and rely on missile defense.

You have to have an offense. You have to have something that imposes true costs, defangs the threat long term.

And by the way, the conversation we're having of the possibility of Israel launching some kind of offensive,

doing something like this to respond is made possible by the incredible change in the

dynamic on its northern front with the decimation of the leadership and capabilities of Hezbollah. It's 10 a. It's 10 a.m. on the day.

It's 10 a.m. on Wednesday, October 16th here in New York City. It is 5 o'clock p.m. on

Wednesday, October 16th in Israel as Israelis wind down their day and get ready to enter another hog, a holiday, Suukot.

And many of you may be wondering why we are dropping an episode during the day.

We typically drop an episode at midnight Wednesday night going

into Thursday but the reason we're dropping this one early is not because it's an

emergency episode although there is a lot of news But as we learned a couple of weeks ago,

a number of our listeners felt very strongly

that we not release an episode on Shabbat.

It was a debate whether or not to release an episode

during Shabbat, which we chose not to do and we are in the height of the holiday season as they say on the Hebrew calendar in the Jewish world and for those observing Jewish

listeners of ours we wanted to be very respectful of them and many of them are going

offline for the holiday and those at least that are not in Israel won't be

back online until Saturday night.

So we want to get something out before then and so that is what we are doing and there is

real news that we wanted to get to and for that we are joined by my longtime friend and third

time returnee I was I was reminded I thought it was second time third time

time returnee to the call me back podcast rich Goldberg who is a senior advisor to the

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