We have to work especially hard to not allow Iran's narrative and Hezbollah's narrative

to tell a story as if the only thing that we are focused on is ourselves.

As Ehud Barak used to say a villa in the jungle,

but let's create a few more villas.

Because it's very, very hard to generate momentum and energy

just behind a message of we are going to live by the sword and that's all there is.

Now again we have to do this in a non-naive fashion. There are real unbelievably difficult challenges, but it's not

impossible that in a few years time we will look back on this moment and say, we had to confront the enemies of peace in order to create this

much better Middle East. It's 2.30 PM on Wednesday, September 25th here in New York City. It is 930 PM on Wednesday,

September 25th in Israel. I'm pleased to welcome back to this podcast my longtime

friend tall Becker who's the senior fellow and vice president at the Shalom

Hartman Institute and he was the long time legal advisor to Israel's foreign

ministry and has performed a number of functions in that role some of which will

touch on.

Tall, thanks for being here.

Good to be with you guys.

Yeah, good to have you back.

As I have mentioned to you, this is part of a series,

a special series we've been doing in the lead up in immediate aftermath of the very

grim one-year anniversary of October 7th.

We are, I guess, looking back at what has happened in Israel and the Jewish people and for the

Jewish people over the past year, but we're also trying to look forward. And I know you have spent a lot of time

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