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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol and Jared Polis: Send In the Clown

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Trump keeps filling out his administration with the unqualified and the inexperienced, including the recent addition of the borderline literate hack Dan Bongino at the FBI. Meanwhile, Trump's Friday night DOD purge was another step in embedding autocracy in our government. Plus, Elon's and Vance's efforts to influence the German elections seem to have backfired. And before the Proud Boy drama and the bomb threat at the annual Principles First conference, Tim spoke with Colorado Gov. Jared Polis about the right way to cut government waste and build more houses—and how the Dems should polish their prosperity messaging.

Gov. Jared Polis and Bill Kristol join Tim Miller.
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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast.

0:10.0

I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:11.3

It is Monday, February 24th.

0:12.9

We are in the Upside Down.

0:14.5

One of my competitors in the podcasting space, the borderline literate Dan Bong, is taking over as the deputy director of the FBI.

0:24.7

So that is our big news item for this Monday. And I'm happy to be here with Bill Crystal to discuss it.

0:29.9

How you doing, Bill? I'm fine, Tim. Yeah, I don't really follow Dan Bongino that much.

0:33.9

I said in warning shots that I thought he was one of the more clownish of the Trumpists.

0:37.4

Was that unfair? No, that is not unfair. And we're about to just listen to a that much. I said in Morning Shots that I thought he was one of the more clownish of the Trumpists.

0:42.4

Was that unfair? No, that is not unfair. And we're about to just listen to a little clip from him that's going to show it. And we're going to get into more in the second part of this podcast.

0:46.5

I interviewed Jared Polis at the principal's first conference, which ended up having a lot of drama

0:51.7

and fireworks, more so in the past five years.

0:54.3

So we'll get to that in a minute.

0:55.8

But first up,

0:56.7

let's test your theory that Pongino is one of the more clownish trumpist

1:00.5

and listen to a clip from his podcast.

1:03.5

Anything that matters is what?

1:05.1

Chat, what matters?

1:06.9

Anyone?

1:08.9

Power.

1:10.7

Power. You can see what I'm out. Power.

1:11.8

You can see what I'm out.

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