Welcome to Popcast Deluxe, you are. I've always been too on. A weekly cultural review, I'm John

Caramonica, a critic at the New York Times. I'm Joe Kosskereli, I'm a reporter at the New York Times.

Joe, the last six weeks in Pop Music, the last eight weeks,

everybody trying to get out, try to have a summer banger,

some trying harder than others, some not trying that hard and ending up with something anyway.

I do feel like we're coming to the end of the glut.

I hope so.

Manz adds other things to do. I hope so yeah. Yeah.

Manz has other things to do.

But it does feel like Billy Eilish putting out this album that came out on Friday,

hit me hard and soft.

Yep.

That does feel like the capstone.

It does feel like the end of a thing.

Okay, it's like the de no maw. It does it does feel like the end of a thing. Okay, it's like the de nooamois.

It does feel that way a little bit.

Does it strike you like that?

Like aren't you tired?

You know who's tired?

Do a leap a episode coming soon. We're going to get to that

dual-lipa album eventually. This is honestly as though this is the problem with the

dual-lipa album is... It's aminently bumpable. Yeah, stuff just keeps. It is, the dual leap album, the way, I don't do a things to do list in like a classic way.

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