Welcome to Podcast to Podcast Deluxe, you're a little big pock of weekly cultural review.

I'm John Caramonica, a critic at the New York Times.

I'm Joe Cuskerelli, I'm a reporter at the New York Times.

Joe, is it over? Is it over? Can I sleep? Can I rest finally?

You can rest, Drake can't rest.

Because not like us is going to be playing all summer long all summer long unfortunately

for that man yes I feel like my main takeaway from the last few days obviously both sides of the Drake Kendrick

curfuffle have indicated that at least for now everybody's standing down.

Yeah.

You know, obviously there's little, there's information trickling out.

We'll get to some of the side narratives in a minute, but generally speaking important figures on

both sides of this have said great for the culture. You're talking about

top from TDE and DJ academics from Romeo?

Yes.

Formarily.

He seems to have switched sides.

I mean that nobody switches sides more than DJ academics. I mean he's on stream he's on

stream 24 hours a day it's hard to be it's true it's like when you think of

newscasters it's like sometimes they make a flub but like they're on all day.

Yeah, it's a lot of you got to give people give them grace. Yeah. We're giving

all our Twitter streamers all our streamers. Yes But yes, people from both sides have indicated it's done, it's over, and frankly, if people from both sides had not

like us, said that without saying that is the fact that not like us is, as we speak,

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