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Bishop Robert Barron is the bishop of the Diocese of Winona, Rochester in Minnesota.

He is the founder of Word on Fire Catholic Ministries.

He was our 2017 Erasmus Lecturer.

For first things, he's a prolific author as well. Many books have in my hand

another lovely volume from Word on Fire books. I've said before. We've covered several

them. They are beautifully produced and designed. This one is entitled The Great Story of Israel,

Election, Freedom, Holiness. That is our topic today. Welcome again, Bishop Barron.

Well, thank you very much, Mark. Good to be on with you. And it's hard to believe it was 2017.

I did the Erasmus lecture. It seems like, I don't know, a couple years ago, but it's been that

long. I know. I know. Lots happened since then. Yeah, yeah. In our country. So here we are. We're opening where we should open with Genesis,

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