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name to our first things readers. He is an Anglican priest, and he serves at Nashota House

Theological Seminary in Wisconsin.

Before that, he was in the faculty at Regent College in Vancouver and Trinity Western University in Langley, British Columbia.

His many writings include the books, heavenly participation, the weaving of a sacramental tapestry, and embodiment and virtue in Gregory

of Nisa. His new book is Pearsed by Love, Divine Reading with the Christian Tradition,

our topic today. Welcome, Professor Boerzma, or Father Boerzma, either one.

Either one will do. Thank you very much, Mark, for having me.

Okay.

A quote on page one, just as scripture is divine, so our reading must be divine.

Now, this actually isn't as tall, difficult, impossible an order as it sounds, is it?

It should not be. In practice, often it is for us, because we don't do justice to the scriptures

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