So Bitcoin mining and Bitcoin more generally, but mining specifically has established this energetic bridge between physical reality and digital, or I think as you call it,

logical reality, which was a real breakthrough.

We never had anything like this before.

Maybe another way to say that is that we Satoshi innovated a way to bring scarcity into digital space, which is something

that didn't exist before.

So the abundance problem where everyone else was trying to create abundance.

And abundance is the great killer.

So he figured out how to get scarcity, which is one of the key features

of the physical world. And you may think that you want abundance, but then you have to ask

yourself the question, if I was actually living in an abundant world, but I hate every day of my

existence. An interesting question. That might be a point you and I diverge on, but I'm sure we'll

get into you. The way that I think about it is that so long as money is producible, there's a big

incentive to go into that line of business to try and print your own money, basically.

Yeah.

Erego central banking. But if print your own money basically. Yeah. Ergo central banking.

But if money is counterfeiting.

Yeah.

Counterfeiting.

If money is not, uh,

producible or counterfeitable, then all of a sudden you have to direct your

productive energies towards goods, services, knowledge, anything but money, frankly. So I think the scarcity of money,

the high assurance or credibility of scarcity and money actually channels the energy of human

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