It's, it's, well, at least one party. So you can't have something like slavery,

where you can, you can, you can, one party benefits, but the other party gets screwed.

Right. And that's unfortunately been the model that we've been reduced to in a lot of societies.

The Romans did this that way and all the way up to, you know, the Soviet gulags.

They built their entire country and all of the infrastructure and stuff through slave labor, right?

Like they would put them to the gulag or whatever, and that's how they would build it out.

And that's what it reduces to when you don't have voluntary trade.

So really the alternative to capitalism, the alternative to voluntary trade is some form of slavery,

which is not a very good prospect.

Absolutely.

Yeah, maybe the voluntary trade is a positive sum game.

And if we introduce an involuntary aspect to that, it becomes much more zero-sum,

much more master-and-slave dynamic. And that's, you know,

embedded in the central bank system. It is, there's involuntary exchange right to the core, right?

Every time we print money, they're stealing from the productive economy. And I think, you know,

I've been thinking about this a lot recently, too, is I think this impacts are not only our self-identity, but our group identity as well, that we identify so much with politics.

We're so concerned about our political leanings one way or another.

And it's only because politics determines the distribution of property to a large extent.

You know, if it couldn't be stolen, then all of a sudden we just wouldn't have an incentive

to care about one another's political leanings as much.

So it's almost like politics is this mass psychosis induced by, you know, fiat, or at least contributed to by

fiat currency. Yeah. Fiat money definitely raises the stakes of politics because there's this money

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