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Bjorn Lombard is a Danish author and president of the Copenhagen consensus center, a project

based US think tank where prominent economists are seeking to establish priorities for advancing

global welfare.

He's the former director of the Danish government's Environmental Assessment Institute in Copenhagen.

Bjorn became known internationally for his book, The Skeptical Environmentalist in 2001, and

how to spend $75 billion to make the world a better place.

Cool it in 2007, which is also a movie and lately published in 2018, prioritizing development,

a cost-benefit analysis of the UN's sustainable development goals among many other works

in books.

And so I'm hoping we'll have a very productive conversation today and welcome to this discussion.

Thanks a lot, Terence.

Alright, so why don't you just start by letting people know what you've been up to over the

last, let's say, two decades.

I know that's a very broad question.

And why?

I mean, I've been interested in talking to you because I read a number of your books a

few years ago and I was interested in your economic analysis and as a way of determining

which crises, let's say, or which potential crises are real and also how they might be

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