Hi, Traceology listeners, it's Katie.

Today we're bringing you a special bonus episode

from the podcast Ripple Effect.

Ripple Effect is a new show from the Wharton School

that highlights research by Wharton faculty.

This episode is part of a series on women and work,

which we thought would be a nice compliment

to our last Traceology episode.

Plus, I happen to be the scholar interviewed.

If you like what you hear, you can find the show

at whr.tn slash ripple effect, or wherever you get your podcasts.

We'll be back with a regular Traceology episode in two weeks.

Make sure you shine a light on how things are going

in different groups, because scrutiny increases

the social pressure.

People feel to make different kinds

of hiring and promotion decisions

and attend to a lack of diversity, highlighting social norms

when they're positive social norms,

meaning, hey, you're the only group in the company

that hasn't yet promoted a woman to this senior ranks.

That kind of scrutiny and those kinds of social norms matter.

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