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Thank you. Hello American Prestige listeners. I am joined, as always, by my friend and comrade Danny Bessner, and we're very grateful

to welcome back to the program.

You know him.

He's been on so many times at this point. One of our

favorite guests from Radio War Nerd, it is Mark Ames. Mark, thanks for coming back to the show.

Well, thanks for having me back on, guys. It's always a pleasure. So you are, I was going to say that

you're our Ukraine desk. I feel like you're really more our what the

fuck are we doing desk, because this is what these conversations always seem to come down to.

Yeah. So let's get right into it. We're recording this one day after the big Donald Trump,

Vladimir Putin phone call to discuss what Trump had billed as a 30-day ceasefire in Ukraine

and that Putin talked him down to a 30-day cessation of attacks on energy infrastructure,

which the Trump administration then tried to say was a cessation on attacks on energy

and infrastructure, which is a much different thing.

And the Russians were very quick to say, no, no, no. It's attacks on energy infrastructure.

What did you make of the call and the result and the way that you've seen it covered in the

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