Brené with Anand Giridharadas on The Persuaders, Part 1 of 2

Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

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Society & Culture, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement

4.6 • 24.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2022

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

I love this two-part series with Anand Giridharadas, author of The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy. Every now and then, I come across something that makes me think in a completely new way, and this was one of those times. We talk about this concept of persuasion — the ability to reach across differences and believe that others are movable, as well as the idea that I have the capacity to be moved — as being the heart of democracy. I’m so glad you’re here for this conversation, and get ready to be persuaded. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi everyone I'm Brine Brown and this is unlocking us.
0:04.0	Oh man, I love this two-part series.
0:09.0	Barrett, how good was this?
0:10.0	Today I'm talking to Anan Gerdas, author of The Persuaders, subtitle at the Front Lines of the Fight
0:19.2	Her Hearts, Minds, and Democracy. Onen has my heart and my mind
0:25.0	and he's got my democracy too.
0:27.0	I don't know how you can have that,
0:30.0	but boy, this book,
0:32.0	have you ever seen me tear up a book like this book?
0:35.0	I have not.
0:36.4	I mean, I bet, I don't want to be hyperbolic here,
0:40.0	but I bet 25% of it is highlighted underlined or has an exclamation point so much so that it became meaningless.
0:47.8	I had to actually start like hierarchically ranking the importance of the different colors.
0:53.5	It's just so good.
0:55.2	This is a two-part special around Onon's book.
1:00.2	And every now and then I come across something that makes me think in a completely new way.
1:10.0	And this was one of those times. Persuasion, the ability to reach a cross difference
1:17.0	and believe that others are movable
1:20.0	and that I have the capacity to be moved as the heart of democracy.
1:25.0	I'm so glad you're here for this conversation.
1:28.0	Welcome to unlocking us and get ready to be persuaded.
1:32.0	Busy weekends are a breeze with American Express Platinum Card.
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