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Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Brené with Anand Giridharadas on The Persuaders, Part 2 of 2

Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement

4.624.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

It’s Part 2 of our two-part series with Anand Giridharadas, author of The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy. I’m still thinking about Anand’s story and how his experiences informed this concept of persuasion as being the heart of democracy. In this episode, we talk more specifically about the real stories included in the book — some scary, some incredibly inspiring — and he shares more about the individuals behind this meaningful work, which is built on meeting people where they are. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi everyone I'm Brinay Brown and this is unlocking us.

0:04.0

Welcome to Part 2 of our interview with Anan Gerdadas,

0:11.0

author of the Persuaders at the front lines of the fight for hearts, minds, and democracy.

0:16.4

I think I told Barrett before this, I told you I thought the podcast would last how long,

0:20.4

like a recording, like an hour and 15 minutes or something?

0:24.0

Yeah.

0:25.0

Did it last three hours?

0:26.0

Yes.

0:28.0

They're like, we're running out of tape, we're running out of battery,

0:31.0

our cards are full.

0:32.0

I'm like, I don't care, shut up, it's so interesting.

0:34.2

I'm glad you're here.

0:34.9

Part two of a conversation about his new book,

0:37.1

The Persuaders, at the front lines for the fight

0:39.4

for hearts, minds, and democracy.

0:41.1

I'm so glad you're here.

0:42.4

Let's jump into the conversation. and the most from what it means to be here with American Express.

0:53.0

You breeze through the card member entrance,

0:55.0

stop by the lounge.

0:57.0

Now it's almost tip-off, and everyone's already on their feet.

1:01.0

This is gonna be good.

1:05.0

That's the powerful backing of American Express.

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