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Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Brené with James Clear on Atomic Habits, Part 1 of 2

Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement

4.624.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

This week, Unlocking Us is going to Dare to Lead! Even before James Clear and I met, I knew this would be a two-part series. I just had so many questions for the author of Atomic Habits, which has sold more than 5 million copies worldwide and been translated into more than 50 languages. Not surprisingly, this turned out to be exactly the type of conversation I’d anticipated. In Part 1 of our series, we talk specifically about developing identity-based habits and how we can become the architects of those habits, not the victims of them. We also talk about the intersection of his work and mine, the collective stories we make up, and how our mindsets and our systems can set us up for success. It was so meaningful to finally meet James, to hear his story, and to take in his insights into how he developed such a deep understanding of the importance of consistency over intensity when it comes to forming habits that last. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone I'm Brine Brown and this is unlocking us.

0:05.0

Happy 2022.

0:07.0

Oh my God, let this be on the upswing folks. We are launching the new year with a very special two-part episode

0:19.7

that's actually a crossover from Dare to Lead.

0:23.6

So several months ago, I talked to author James Clear

0:27.8

about his book, Atomic Habits.

0:30.6

We did two episodes on it because it was just so it was so interesting to me and

0:36.8

important and helpful actually to me personally that I wanted to share it.

0:42.0

There's some crossover between Dereto Lead

0:43.6

and unlocking us, but unlocking us

0:45.2

has a very kind of different audience

0:48.3

for the most part than Dere to Lead.

0:49.7

So I wanted to share this with you

0:51.1

because I think it's meaningful, I think it's helpful, and as we're kind of just

0:56.7

surround sound with resolutions and change right now, I think James has some very helpful advice and some really interesting research

1:06.7

on what works and what doesn't as we try to make new habits and break old ones.

1:11.1

In fact, some of my all-time favorite quotes come from this book. So I'm so glad you're here.

1:17.3

It's an incredibly challenging and new way to look at habits.

1:25.0

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1:31.0

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1:35.0

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1:39.9

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