Hi everyone I'm Brinay Brown and this is unlocking us.

Do you ever have one of those conversations where you just kind of lose track of time and you're laughing?

I think I laughed hard and cried at least twice in this conversation. I am talking with

Jennifer Rudolph Walsh and Ashley C Ford.

Jennifer Rudolph Walsh has edited an anthology called Hungry Hearts and it is a collection

of innovators and creatives and thought leaders who share intimate stories of

uncovering beauty and potential through moments of fear, loss, heartbreak, and

uncertainty. And it's really an incredible anthology because first of all Jennifer was my

literary agent for years since the beginning of my writing career and she put together

a traveling event called Together Live.

It was really a traveling love rally

that brought together diverse storytellers

for epic evenings of laughter and music and hard-won, hard-fought wisdom. And this went all around

the country. And now these folks are contributing their stories and essays to this anthology,

Hungry Hearts.

So I'm talking to Jennifer today,

and I'm also talking to one of the Together Live

speakers and one of the contributors to the anthology Ashley C. Ford.

She and I have followed each other on social media for years, admired each other from far

away.

If her name sounds vaguely familiar to you, it's because you heard

her name as the person who set up our other podcast guests, Roxanne Gay and Debbie Millman.

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