Hi everyone. I'm Brine Brown and this is unlocking S.

What a fun conversation you're getting ready to listen to and be a part of.

So Steve and I like to listen to pivot, the pivot

podcast together sometimes with tech journalist Kara Swisher and

NYU Professor Scott Galloway. And I don't even know how to describe their podcast but I always feel

smarter, more pissed off, sometimes more confused and provoked when I listen to it.

And so today I'm actually talking with Kara and Scott about, you know, I had a list of things.

I was going to do a Word Association game with him,

you'll see in the conversation,

where I just wanted them to give us thoughts

on all of these big tech companies and tech people who we interface with and hear about all the time,

but I don't think we understand and know enough about.

Like we say Facebook, we'll say Tesla, we'll say about you know like we say Facebook will say Tesla will say you

know Spotify will say all these names but what's really going on and how are these

folks outside of our awareness, at least mine, often, shaping the world I live in,

the democracies, I want to uphold, how is that happening? Well as you'll see we

didn't get past Facebook because it took us down a really I don't know what's the

word I'm looking for scary hard illuminating look at Big Tech in general.

I'm so glad you're here for this.

I thought about should this be a dared to lead podcast?

And the more I thought about it, the more I thought, no, this needs a broader

audience of people who are not just listening to leadership and organizational development

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