The culture is the culture.

The culture is the culture.

It's 4 to 6A to B, competitive excellence and the brotherhood.

The plan to win has never changed. So the culture here and the plan to win is always going to be here at a lot of state.

We do a day I'm a lot of love for a lot. Welcome back to 4'A&B, your high state podcast.

We're up to you by The Athletics.

This is Goodlandis, joined by Ari Wasserman.

Ari, what did you say?

We talk a little bit about roster building.

How do you feel about that? I feel like there's one thing I know about you is that you enjoy the nuances of how college football

programs build their rosters. Am I right in that assumption? Yeah, I think that it's Christmas

season and it's also your favorite season, which is roster building season. That's right.

Landis is the type of person who plays Madden Dynasty mode and never plays the games. He just wants to make the trades and create the roster.

My favorite video game was NFL head coach.

You were the only person who bought it.

And then the franchise just was like, you know what?

We can't just keep making this for you, Landis. So we're going to keep on, keep on with Madden, and then, you know,

you'll just have to stay with your PS1 and you can keep playing this game.

That game actually sucked, by the way.

Was that game just like you did everything and then it was just a simulation?

Yeah, it was no game play in it.

You did everything but play the game. You called the plays, you did all that stuff,

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