The culture is the culture.

The culture is the culture.

It's 4 to 6A to B, competitive excellence and the brotherhood.

The plan to win has never changed. So the culture here and the plan to win is always going to be here in a lot of state.

We do a day I'm a lot more than a lot of love. Welcome back to Six with A&B, your high state podcast brought to you by The Athletic.

This is Bill Landis, joined by Ari Wasserman.

And Ari, I felt the, I felt the malaise around Ohio State for really going on two weeks now.

Just, you know, not a lot of good happening.

Guys going on the portal.

Michigan's looking like it might win a national championship,

which is like everyone's worst nightmare in Columbus after they just beat the Buckeyes a little over a week ago.

Just not, I know, I think during the Michigan game, right after the Michigan game,

we talked about it being like a really low point for Ohio State.

I think the way that I would describe it is like there's just no juice,

or at least there was no juice around Ohio State for the better part of, you know,

10 days going on two weeks here.

And I really felt like this was a program in dire need of some kind of win.

And I feel like they got it on Tuesday with their new defensive coordinator, Jim Knowles from Oklahoma State.

Losing to Michigan was tough.

Watching Michigan go out and win the Big Ten championship game by 100

and then match up with Georgia and seem to have a path to potentially

playing for a national championship just made it worse.

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