Butterflies and bullied protesters

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8 • 274 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Europe's rarest butterfly lives on the outskirts of a single town in North Macedonia. So why is it possible to find specimens of this incredibly endangered animal for sale online for 30 euros? This week we speak to Kiril Arsovski Przo, one of the scientists behind an investigation into this troubling legal loophole. We're also talking about the farcical election in Belarus and Britain's crackdown on climate protesters. You can watch 'Nature for Sale' here and read more about the investigation here. Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcasts, we'd love it if you'd consider supporting our work in 2025. You can chip in to help us cover the weekly research and production of The Europeans at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (many currencies are available), or gift a donation to a super fan here. This week's Inspiration Station recommendations: 'Earnest Cole: Lost and Found' and 'Murder Mindfully' (Achtsam Morden). Other resources for this week's episode 'Hope for our rarest UK bat' - Bat Conservation Trust, January 27, 2025 https://www.bats.org.uk/news/2025/01/hope-for-our-rarest-uk-bat Zeno Siemens and Jacco Prantl - 'Learning to listen with Gordon Hempton' https://soundcloud.com/thecorrespondent/zeno-siemens-and-jacco-prantl-learning-to-listen-with-gordon-hempton Invisibilia - 'The Last Sound' https://open.spotify.com/episode/2vPX641oHRo1vetDVl7CeH?si=qu4otcOPTeS4hGyimw5Snw Producers: Morgan Childs and Wojciech Oleksiak Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina 00:23 Cold dips and the future of memory culture04:27 Good Week: Aleksandr Lukashenko12:08 Bad Week: Freedom to protest in the UK32:11 Interview: Kiril Arsovski Przo on the legal loophole threatening Europe's most endangered butterfly47:31 The Inspiration Station: 'Earnest Cole: Lost and Found' and 'Murder Mindfully' (Achtsam Morden)50:59 Happy Ending: Company for the world's loneliest bat Bluesky | Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Mastodon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | [email protected]

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0:00.0	This is the Europeans, your favorite podcast about your favorite continents.
0:27.9	Can I say that?
0:28.9	No.
0:30.3	Probably going too far.
0:31.8	I can't speak for everyone listening to this.
0:33.8	But anyway, this is Katie in Paris, and my usual co-host, Dominic Kramer, has again abandoned me
0:40.0	because apparently he has a, quote-unquote, professional singing career.
0:44.7	Boring.
0:45.4	He's very busy at the moment, singing in a lot of different productions.
0:48.8	So in his place, as you will have heard just now, I'm very happy to be joined this week by our
0:53.4	other resident Amsterdamer.
0:55.5	It's our producer Katzlastlo. Hi, Katz.
0:57.4	Ah, I've just realized that all I've said is no and boring. Hello.
1:02.5	Setting the tone for this week. How have you been?
1:05.9	I've been good. I actually wanted to tell the listeners that since I last came on the show and researched cold dipping, I've been going every week.
1:14.5	Wow.
1:15.2	Yeah, and it's not like I'm like a whole new person who is never grumpy, but I'm genuinely feeling way more energetic and like feeling wonder in the winter, which is pretty wild, considering it's like late January.
1:28.1	Yeah, I was going to say kudos for committing to that in this weather.
1:31.8	I'm assuming it's been as cold in Amsterdam as it has been here.
1:34.3	Yeah, I even got in with ice. I was quite impressed with myself.
1:38.6	Whoa.
1:39.7	Yeah, anyway, so I can recommend. How are you doing, Katie?
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