The world needs more drag cows

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8 • 274 Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In an otherwise miserable week, this podcast is delighted to bring you a joyful interview with a drag cow. At least, an interview with the person behind the cow: the Swiss artist, performer and animal rights activist Daniel Hellmann. We chat to Daniel about why he decided to channel his campaigning side into something so wonderfully silly. We're also talking about a trigger-happy Croatian politician and Ursula von der Leyen's return from hospital. Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcasts, we'd love it if you'd consider supporting our work in 2025. You can chip in to help us cover the weekly research and production of The Europeans at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (many currencies are available), or gift a donation to a super fan here. You can follow Soya the Cow here and find out more about Daniel's work here. This week's Inspiration Station recommendations: 'The Outrun', Danish spruce cookbook 'Mad med gran', and European TikTok. Other resources for this episode 'Što društvo može napraviti da spriječi porast nasilja?' (What can society do to prevent the rise in violence?') - HRT, January 16, 2025 https://vijesti.hrt.hr/hrvatska/otvoreno-659-11963849 'A Brit Explains Wagatha Christie To An American' - Bustle, October 19, 2023 https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/wagatha-christie-explained-by-a-brit-to-an-american Producers: Morgan Childs and Wojciech Oleksiak Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina 00:23 An (attempted) orange-man free zone03:08 Good Week: Ursula von der Leyen10:32 Bad Week: Croatia's government21:40 Interview: Daniel Hellmann (Soya the Cow) on the case for joyful activism39:05 The Inspiration Station: 'The Outrun', 'Mad men gran', and European TikTok44:23 Happy Ending: A social network making a good decision, for once?! Bluesky | Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Mastodon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | [email protected]

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0:00.0	Okay, Katie, if you finish slurping your tea, let's start this podcast.
0:27.5	Hello Europe and hello the rest of the world listening in, because let's be honest,
0:31.2	Europe is never just about Europe.
0:33.7	Welcome to the latest episode of the Europeans.
0:36.2	I'm Dominic Kramer, speaking to you from a freezing cold Amsterdam.
0:41.0	And down the line there with a cup of tea is Katie Lee in Paris.
0:45.6	How are you, Katie?
0:47.4	I promised that was actually my last slurb.
0:49.9	I'm good, thanks. Yeah, also very cold.
0:52.2	But nice to have you back, Dominic.
0:53.8	You were away singing last week, and I think about 15 different operas.
0:57.9	Yeah. Did you manage to not get confused between the many languages you had to sing in?
1:02.4	It is a bit confusing going from Russian to Dutch to English to Italian, honestly, but I'm surviving, and it's at least distracting me from like the horrors of
1:12.2	the rest of the world.
1:13.1	What horrors? I have no idea what you're talking about.
1:16.4	Yeah, honestly, I've been burying my head in the sand a bit this week about the inauguration
1:21.5	on the other side of the Atlantic. And I realize that's maybe a privileged thing to be able to
1:27.1	do, but I also felt like watching
1:30.3	those images of the Orange Man and his gang of oligarchs being broadcast all around the
1:36.7	world. I felt like it wasn't so helpful for me to watch any of it or engage in it. So, this
1:41.6	is going to be an Orange Man free zone pretty much this week, I think, right?
1:45.8	Right. And just to clarify, is that the official term we're going to be using for the next
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