Can a Sunni-Israeli alliance win the war?

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

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🗓️ 26 January 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Al Jazeera is constantly blasting a steady stream of stories and images to the Arab world about 'tens of thousands of Palestinians dead,' according to the Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health. Condemnations against Israel are issued all over the place, with charges of Israeli genocide leveled on U.S. college campuses to the International Court of Justice. And, yet, those Sunni Arab countries that have already integrated with Israel have not reversed course, and those countries not yet integrated (i.e. Saudi Arabia), seem to be pushing ahead. The Sunni Gulf seems to have ambitions that necessitate continued and deeper cooperation with Israel. The question, though, is what do we make of the Saudi requirement for some kind of Palestinian state, however defined? What would it take for Israel to meet that requirement (or check the box) for the Saudis? And how far will the Sunni Gulf go in working with Israel to pacify Gaza? Our guest today is NADAV EYAL, who returns to the podcast. He is a columnist for Yediiot. Eyal is one of Israel’s leading journalists, and a winner of the Sokolov Prize, Israel’s most prestigious journalism award. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news. He received a master’s degree from the London School of Economics and a law degree from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Essay discussed in this episode: “Israel is still winning the political war. From the West to Saudi Arabia, its days of isolation are over," by Dr. Edward Luttwak in UnHerd. https://unherd.com/2024/01/israel-is-still-winning-the-political-war/

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0:00.0	It's a time of reckoning for Israel.
0:03.0	There's a new doctrine being born.
0:06.0	So here's the vision.
0:08.0	If this war ends with Hamas not in power in the Gaza Strip,
0:12.0	are kidnapped Israelis back home, having normalization
0:17.5	with Saudi Arabia, and having a path for Palestinian statehood, and that Palestinian state would be demilitarized and having
0:26.1	international assurance to that, I think we won the war.
0:29.5	And I don't think we only won this war.
0:31.8	We have won the conflict. We have won the conflict.
0:34.0	It is 11 p.m. on Thursday January 25th in New York City. It is 6 a.m. on Friday, January 26th in Israel as Israelis get ready to start their day.
0:58.6	Not one of the Arab countries with whom Israel has diplomatic relations has interrupted them in any way.
1:05.0	Even more important are the statements of Saudi Arabia's foreign minister
1:09.0	who has made it clear that normalizing ties with Israel will not long be delayed once the fighting ends.
1:16.8	That is a quote from a longer analysis by Dr. Edward Lutwack, who is a longtime military strategist in the U.S. and a military historian.
1:26.3	I've known him for some time.
1:28.3	We quoted Edward in our first book, Start Up Nation.
1:32.3	This quote is part of a longer essay in the British Journal called
1:36.0	Unheard, which I highly recommend. I will link to it in the show notes. Edward's Peace is titled,
1:43.0	Israel is still winning the political war.
1:46.0	From the West to Saudi Arabia, its days of isolation are over.
1:52.0	Now it's quite a contrarian take but one I
1:55.8	increasingly agree with. If you look at the history of Israel's wars, Israel
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