Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books, great men, and great ideas.

This is Hillsdale Dialogues, part of the Hillsdale College Podcast Network. More episodes at

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or wherever you find your audio. Morning glory, America. Bonjour. Hi, Canada. That

music means it time for the Hillsdale dialogue once a week. We go higher. We go immediate with Dr. Larry Arne, President of Hillsdale College.

Next week, we're going back to Plato like we were last week.

This week, though, I'm back from the Caribbean, filling in for Dennis, and I thought, I'd asked Dr.

Arn how he thought President-elect Trump was doing in the early stages of the transition.

We're far away from hearings yet.

Dr. Ron, good morning to you.

How are you? Happy Thanksgiving.

Good. How are you?

Belated. I am great.

I want to ask you.

By the way, thank you. I have received an invitation.

And I'm looking forward to my next cruise will be with the Hillsdale gang,

which means you've got to put up with me for a couple of weeks.

Oh, man, that's amazing.

So people should come just to see if I throw Hugh overboard.

People do vanish from cruise ships occasionally.

But how often do you talk on those?

There's a cycle.

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