Hey TED Talks Daily listeners, I'm Elise Hugh.

Today we have an episode of another podcast from the TED Audio Collective,

handpicked by us for you.

It's Women's History Month in the United States,

and we are kicking it off with a recent episode of Rethinking with Adam Grant. This episode features reproductive rights activist and Smith

College professor Loretta Ross, who has spent her career fighting injustices and working

to change the minds of others. Over time, she began to question whether calling people out

was the right strategy for lasting change,

and instead started to rethink what it meant to approach difficult conversations. Loretta and

Adam reflect on their own personal moments of confrontation and consider what an alternative

to cancel culture could look like. To hear more deep conversations, you can find rethinking

wherever you get your podcasts.

Learn more about the TED Audio Collective

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It takes too much energy to hate people.

I've always found that exhausting. I've always found that exhausting.

Hey, everyone, it's Adam Grant.

Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the Science of What Makes Us Tick with the TED Audio Collective.

I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people

to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

My guest today is Loretta Ross, public intellectual, activist, and professor at Smith College.

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