Chaz Ebert on Loss, Intuition and Her 'Cougar' Group Chat

Death, Sex & Money

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Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.6 • 7.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Ten years ago, Chaz Ebert talked to us about grief and loss as she was mourning the 2013 death of her husband, movie critic Roger Ebert. Her deep sense of connection to Roger continued after he was gone, including, she described, hearing his voice and feeling like they were still in conversation. When Chaz talked about this a decade ago, though, she was skittish about sharing too much about their ongoing communication, nervous that it would sound too out there. No longer. When we talked just a few weeks ago, Chaz described a lifetime of intuitive sensing, a skill she inherited from her mother. While her conversations with Roger have stopped, her intuition still powers much of what she does, including writing her new book, which she describes as “a download from the universe.” It’s called It’s Time to Give a FECK: Elevating Humanity through Forgiveness, Empathy, Compassion and Kindness. This week, we listen back to our original conversation with Chaz and hear what has shifted in the ten years since. Podcast production by Andrew Dunn. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. Come out for a LIVE Death, Sex & Money show at SF Sketchfest, San Francisco’s comedy and improv festival, on January 31. Get your tickets here. And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, Anna.
0:01.7	Chas Ebert, it's lovely to see you.
0:04.3	Good to see you. It's been a long time.
0:06.5	The last time we talked was 10 years ago, so it has been a decade.
0:11.6	Wow.
0:12.6	I recently got to reconnect with Chaz Ebert, who was first on the show in 2014.
0:19.2	Back then, we talked about grief and losing her husband, the movie
0:23.2	critic and writer Roger Ebert. And though it was many years ago, I think about that conversation
0:30.1	I had with Chaz a lot. And it's stuck with many longtime listeners, too. Many of you have brought it up to me over the years about how she described her relationship
0:42.0	with Roger that continued after his death, how that felt familiar to many of you after losing
0:48.0	people in your own lives.
0:50.3	Earlier this year, I saw that Chaz had published a book.
0:54.7	It's called Give Effect, Elevating Humanity Through Forgiveness, Empathy, Compassion, and Kindness.
1:01.7	And that prompted me to reach back out.
1:04.7	And this week, you'll hear my original conversation with Chaz from 2014, and later on, what has happened in her life since.
1:13.7	The word widow, that word almost makes you feel alone. I think that's why, in the beginning, I rejected it.
1:21.1	And people would say they would write Roger's widow, and I would say, no, please write Roger's wife.
1:29.5	This is Death, sex, and money.
1:34.5	The show from Slate about the things we think about a lot, I need to talk about more.
1:42.9	I'm Anna Sale.
1:44.8	Music I need to talk about more. I'm Anna Seale. I'm Anna Seale.
1:52.8	What?
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