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The Dig

China and the US with Tobita Chow and Jake Werner

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2020

⏱️ 121 minutes

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A big-picture interview with Tobita Chow and Jake Werner on China that puts today's geopolitical conflict and repression into the context of global capitalism. Join a Dig Book Club thedigradio.com/dig-book-club Support this podcast at patreon.com/TheDig

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0:12.0

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0:17.0

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0:24.4

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0:29.4

rather than the cause of the declining fortunes of the working class. Through a careful analysis the who destroyed the American middle class with neoliberal policies.

0:44.3

Non-college-educated American workers have every reason to be enraged and alienated by rising

0:50.0

inequality and the degradation of employment, Milkman argues, but their anger has been

0:55.8

profoundly misdirected. Immigrant labor in the new precarious by Ruth Milkman, out now from Polity Books.

1:04.0

Welcome to the dig, a podcast from Jackubin magazine. My name is Daniel Denver and

1:17.9

I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island. This is the big picture episode on China that I've been

1:25.1

meaning to do forever. The US and China find themselves in a dynamic of

1:29.4

escalating nationalism that mutually reinforce one another. This is disastrous

1:35.2

for American and Chinese people because it poses the risk of military

1:38.6

conflict and because it reinforces the power of reactionary and repressive forces at the

1:45.0

expensive working-class people in both countries.

1:48.0

And it's disastrous for people everywhere on Earth.

1:51.0

As long as the world's two largest economies are bent on conflict

1:56.0

with each other, they will be reinforcing the very dynamics of the global capitalist world

2:01.2

system that are driving this conflict, a system that

2:04.6

perversely creates overcapacity in American, Chinese, and manufacturing sectors

2:10.5

worldwide even as half the world's population lacks secure access to the most basic needs.

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