4.2 • 5 Ratings
🗓️ 15 April 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Episode Guest
Chloe Cameron is VP of Global Employee Experience and Strategic Programs at Pax8, where she builds culture, systems, and structure to help employees do the best work of their lives.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 - Average people can get great jobs
00:24 - Meet Chloe Cameron, VP at Pax8
01:15 - Safe doesn’t mean comfortable: courage in the workplace
01:58 - What’s your duvet flip?
02:26 - Chloe’s first job in a frozen-in-time department store
03:55 - Financial freedom and learning the value of hard work
04:47 - Choosing practicality over perfection early in your career
05:49 - What Chloe looks for in early career candidates
06:44 - No experience or hobbies? Here’s how to stand out
07:39 - How to reflect meaningfully and use journaling
08:45 - Managing boredom at work and staying proactive
09:59 - From school to Cambridge to the unknown world of work
11:07 - When the academic path ends: now what?
12:19 - Advice for graduates entering the job market
13:16 - Chloe’s first “wrong” job and what it taught her
14:25 - Quitting isn’t weakness: when and how to leave
15:38 - Great people, boring job? What to do next
16:33 - The right way to quit without burning bridges
17:54 - What does 'safe at work' really mean?
19:01 - Landing the job at Microsoft: what it meant to Chloe
20:25 - Culture shocks in corporate environments
21:31 - Why the smartest person doesn’t always get the best job
22:47 - Build your reputation by being reliable
23:40 - How to network and work smart, not just hard
24:27 - Chloe’s first leadership experience and key lessons
25:46 - Should you be a manager? How to decide
26:48 - Leadership is hard: here’s what to expect
27:51 - Developing your leadership style over time
28:50 - Continuous learning and leadership evolution
29:33 - Leading across cultures: from the UK to the Philippines
30:58 - Pax8’s cultural values: seek to understand and we before me
31:54 - Remote work and the return to the office
33:13 - Leaving Microsoft for startup life
34:17 - Why stupid rules pushed Chloe to take the leap
35:48 - The power of small business with big ambition
36:39 - Building a role from scratch in a startup
37:50 - Chloe’s top career advice: fill the gaps
39:06 - What Chloe looks for in a résumé today
40:13 - What is a VP of Global Employee Experience?
41:43 - Creating people-first tools at Pax8
42:38 - Why join Pax8: opportunity, culture, and growth
43:39 - Chloe’s duvet flip: build the workplace she always wanted
Episode Partner
Pax8 is the technology marketplace of the future, linking partners, vendors, and small to midsized businesses (SMBs) through AI-powered insights and comprehensive product support. With a global partner ecosystem of over 38,000 managed service providers, Pax8 empowers SMBs worldwide by providing software and services that unlock their growth potential and enhance their security.
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0:00.0 | Some very average people can get very good jobs in corporate. |
0:05.3 | And it's not about being the smartest in the room. |
0:08.4 | And I would recommend starting with reliability and doing what you say. |
0:11.6 | Your profile will quickly grow. |
0:13.3 | It is just making connections in the workplace and seeing where that opportunity can take you. |
0:19.1 | I couldn't agree more. |
0:20.6 | Making connections, being truthful and authentic and saying what you're going to do. |
0:25.2 | Hi everyone, my name is Chloe Cameron. |
0:29.0 | I'm the VP of Global Employee Experience at PaxSafe. |
0:32.1 | We employ over 1,700 people globally and this is my duvet flip. |
0:36.1 | Safe doesn't mean comfortable to me. It's an environment |
0:40.0 | where you feel you can be courageous, not that there is an absence of fear. This fear comes |
0:45.5 | from within. It's the stories we tell ourselves. When do you know that management is the right |
0:50.7 | path for you? Leading people is the greatest joy but most work of any role that you can do. |
0:58.0 | What's your duvet flip? What gets you out of bed in the morning to flip the duvet? |
1:04.0 | So Chloe, welcome to my dovo flip. How are we? |
1:07.0 | Very well, thank you. Absolutely delighted to be here, Jack. |
1:10.0 | Well, I'm really excited to hear you about your career journey and everything in between. |
1:13.6 | But I want to start here. |
1:14.6 | First job. |
1:15.6 | Like, what was your first job? |
1:17.6 | What did you do? |
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