Bob Beck is an incredibly thoughtful spiritual thinker who's exposed himself to a variety of spiritual traditions,

but has focused largely on re-evaluating the Christian dogma.

He wrote a book called Original Sin Is a Lie, and of course I couldn't agree more.

But in this podcast, we end up talking about the beauty of Yeshua's teachings,

as much as we talk about the ways in which that doesn't really feel right and apply

in some of the mainstream ways that religion has tried to express these beautiful teachings.

So this was a surprisingly wonderful podcast with Bob Beck. I hope you guys enjoy it.

Bob, how are you brother? I'm doing good. I feel like this is one of those, like,

landmark moments when this Israeli kid sits down when the Palestinian kid and they realize

they're actually friends all along. And you're a booey bulldog, which is your high school.

I'm a West Lake Shaperale. I didn't think I'd be sitting down across the table civilly.

We can't have peace. Peace is possible in this world. When I would go play at your basketball gym,

your crowd was so fucking vicious. Like, we'd be on the bench and we just feel spit just hitting

our back. That wasn't for me. I can't speak for those guys. It wasn't me. I had my best games

the other I liked it. You guys just parking lot was a lot nicer than ours. We noticed the

beamers. Yeah. That may add something to do with it. But yeah, man, I'm excited to have you here

and excited to talk about your book and kind of what you started from Inside Men,

too, which I think is pretty cool. Oh, thanks. Let's just go right into the book because

original sin is a lie. It's a big old lie. It's a big old fucking lie. It really is. And we

talked about this, you know, about the title. It's provocative. The book is a lot more

provocative than the classic love. Yeah. And I mean, it's a hill I'm okay to die on. You know,

original sin really is a lie. Jesus never mentions it for one. The religion, the man that the

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