Dick Schwartz is the creator of Internal Family Systems, which is one of the most powerful

constructs and tools to help us understand our psyche. And as he did the last time we were on the

podcast, we go deep into explore my own psyche, my own protectors, my manager parts, my exiles,

the parts of me that need to find a home, to come home, and to bring me into a greater sense of

wholeness, a greater sense of capital S self. And it's a beautiful exploration of my own

challenges and some stories from Dick as the creator and one of the leading practitioners in the world

as it relates to the combination of psychedelic therapy and internal family systems, which is an

unbelievably powerful combination that I've experienced myself. So it's with great honor and tenderness

that I offer his vulnerable podcast with Dick Schwartz.

Dick, it's a pleasure to have you back on again. I remember we got to go deeply personal

in the last episode. And so why not start there? Why not start there again? So because there was a

recent incident where I needed a reconciliation with my wife, Ilana. And it was actually some

IFS methodology and framework that actually unlocked the possibility for us to reconcile.

Really honored to hear that. Yeah, it was really it was really powerful. I could feel. So what I could

feel is that there was a piece of me that was, you know, because I've stepped into full trust

with my life, like full trust. And then a few incidences happened where I felt like I was acting

in good faith, but there was a rupture that was created from it. And what ended up happening

that I wasn't aware of, we go into our kind of home-based journey, which is the combination of

ketamine and cannabis, we get prescribed. And so we go into our basic journey and I could feel

that there was some part of me part being a key word. There's a part of me that wasn't willing

to actually reconcile with me. So I had the kind of intuition at that point to just name it as a

part. And I said, you know, by look, I have a protector. And the protector is here. And it says,

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