On a more human scale, what I mean by anti-capitalism is detangling our worth and our personal

value and our sense of what is meaningful from that quest for more.

So in your case, it might not be the quest for more and more and more money or stuff.

It might be a quest for more productivity, more usefulness, more caregiving, more martyrdom,

whatever it is, I think that even if you're not chasing more money, endlessly, we're

still caught in this capitalist system of believing that we should always be chasing more, even

if it doesn't look like money.

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Chrissy, welcome to the unmistakable creative.

Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm really psyched to be here.

Yeah, it is my pleasure to have you here.

I found out about your work because you wrote in and I think that there are a number of

things about what you did that were really relevant to the times we're living in from the

work around activism to what you call self-care, all of which we will get into.

Before we get into that, I want to start asking you, where in the world did you grow up

and how did where you grew up end up impacting the choices that you've made throughout your

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