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I was so pissed.

I was so incensed.

I was so disoriented.

I'm like, what is happening?

I've not, in all my years of ministry, I haven't felt this.

Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership podcast.

It's Kerry here, and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

Hey, wherever this finds you, welcome to all of our new subscribers.

Welcome.

And to those of you who have been here for a long time, so glad that you keep doing this,

because then we get to keep doing this.

And today, I'm going to take you to Dallas where I sat down, not in the basement, but with a guy

who started the basement podcast. He's had a meteoric rise. He's upset the gram on Instagram and

social channels. I'm talking about the one and only Tim Ross. And we are going to go there.

We talk about the meteoric rise of his podcast, deconstruction, destruction, reconstruction,

reconstruction, code switching, and how podcasting he thinks could be the future of ministry.

So we're going to talk about all that today. And hey, want to thank our partners,

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with Convoy's gift catalog. Go to Convoyofhope.org slash carry for more. Well, Tim Ross is a professional

podcaster, social media influencer, author, preacher, and businessman. His unorthodox approach

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